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Jats1
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posted 03-02-2005 10:57 PM     Profile for Jats1   Email Jats1     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have entered several competitions on various boards, and have observed most can be run without a separate website. It works fine as long as ppl obey simple rules. It could go something like this:

Month 1: MVGC boss makes a thread in which they outline this months theme, and give the deadline and any other information or rules that might be required. eg

Month1 theme: Prince of Persia

Anyone with any questions can post in the thread and discuss etc etc

Next the person in charge makes another thread called

Month1 Entries

and then writes a post in capital letters saying that no-one is to respond in this thread except to post a picture as their entry - all other post will be deleted.

Finally a third thread can be posted:

Month 1 contest results

In this thread the judges (perhaps the moderators?) post a comment each about who they think is the winner, and any other observations they want to give. After this has been done, all the contestants can post comments saying hooray! I won, or You must be blind! or whatever it is they want, and from there we can progress to next months three threads. If everyone is disciplined and uses each thread for its defined purpose it should all go smoothly.

I think it should be like this because:

setting up a separte site is time consuming. Additionally it seems like more effort. If I am a newcomer to the forums, I might find the mvgc on bomus website, inb which case id think it was over. Alternatively I might find the MGVC section in the forums. which is currently, due to lack of discpline, half full of stuff with absolutley nothing to do with the mgvc. There is a very slim chance that I will find tri's post about the new site, and then click on the second link in the thread (or which ever link is the one that works I can't remember) and find out what it is all about. It seems easier, both for newcomers, and for ppl who already know what its about, to use the mgvc thread in the forums, which is currently used for pretty much nothing. I predict it will be much easier to attract a following again too.

Here is a scenario that I think would get the competition popular again: Apply the system stated above, and then a few of us spend a serious burst of effort, and produce a few really hich quality pictures, and post them in popular forums, picking World of Warcraft as a theme - I know its extremely popular in all the art communities ive been involved in, and it has enormous scope for fanatasy heads, and I for one won't find it hard to rustle up a scantily clad sorceress or something. Then in the post on the other forums we mention its for a competition and encourage them to join in. I bet this will work, and the following we attract will hopefully follow to next month. A separate site is just too much effort for everyone involved. I would be happy to both run, and contribute a picture for month one to test my theory, but i think it would be most effective if a couple of other members could contribute one or 2 high quality images to drop in the other forums at the same time I do - i think the mvgc is really cool, and i think it would be worth a few of us spending 8 hours on our tablets if it would kickstart it again.

(this message will selfdestruct after 10mins if and when the plan is implemented )

let me know what you think

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posted 04-02-2005 01:38 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
An interesting proposal Jats

- that's how the contests at Drawstick (where I submitted that Sosuke chara) were run.

It's a good idea and I'd be happy to see it run this way, as long as I don't have to organize it

I still have plans to re-open the MVGC on my site, but it'll involve an extensive revamp. Eventually, my plan is to allow users to add their entries in the same way users add art to sites like Devianart so that little maintenance is required. Winners would also receive prizes from sponsors, in return for advertising on the MVGC site.
Doing it this way would be great and I can see a large game fanart community stemming from it providing it went according the plan. However, It'll involve loads of effort to get it started; asking 100s of individual to join, getting the event advertised on other sites, generating a decent amount of hits to gain interest from sponsors, as I'm not a programming geek- probably paying a few hundred bucks to get the site coded, domain and server space costs and taking time out of an already busy schedule! If I could think of a way to generate revenue from the idea, it'd make it worth considering tomorrow, but as it is, the MVGC is a small fan site made by game fans for game fans so that might be the way it will have to stay?

Anyway, if I did follow through my idea, it wouldn't take effect for at least 6 to 12 months.

So, in the mean time, I'd be happy to go for the forum based monthly idea!

Since Tri is currently carrying the MVGC torch, you best wait to hear what he thinks.

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posted 04-02-2005 04:09 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks Bomu!

well if everyone wants to do it that way fine. I won't stand in the way, tho i did just spend the last 20 hours designing a new layout and such, and once I find the script 4 submitions I could have the new site up fast. also the new Iframes would look great but, if u guys wanna do it the other way, 4 real. then by all means, i just kinda found this to be a fun little project.(even tho the my site was kinda the junks and the size was a bit large.)

but 4 real if everyone feels just useing the form would be better, then don't let me stop yea go right a head ^_^ maby we should have a poll ?

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posted 04-02-2005 06:59 AM     Profile for Erock   Email Erock     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
yes i like the idea about posting in the threads
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Jats1
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posted 04-02-2005 01:07 PM     Profile for Jats1   Email Jats1     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I basically put this idea forward because i think it would be easier to attract new competitors by using a format thats simple and easy for them to recognise. I by no means want to hijack this from you tri, nor undermine your hardwork - I guess what I mean is I would only push for this new tactic to be implemented if everyone here was enthusiastic about it.

However I think it will only work if a few of us drop something special simultaneously in other forums, and mention that its for a competition here and that will bring ppl in. I happen to know that many artists, particularly on pk are very into World of Warcraft at the moment, so I think it would attract a crowd if that was the main theme. I am very happy to spend some care over a picture to contribute, and although im sure some of our most talented members here may be busy with other things, the theme should allow them to cunningly pretend some previous artwork was for the competition eg silentdans excellent orc, and I bet bomu has some kind of fantasy character in stock. etc etc

We could even just do this for 1 month and then implement tri's site after - my proposal would be to make a sticky in this section saying: the mvgc is a long running competition, but the site is undergoing an overhaul etc etc, so we're continuing in this format for a bit etc etc, until it has a formal site again etc, and then outline the rules and whatnot. Then we should delete this thread so no-one knows theyre being tricked lol. (although theyre not really being tricked cos if it works lots of ppl will join and so no-one will ever notice anyway, and bomus old mgvc site, which had lots of subscribers will support this idea.) Anyway, maybe im overdoing it with all this deviousness, but its just the solution I came up with when I considered the problem of not enough subcribers.

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Tri_kento
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posted 04-02-2005 02:31 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well if u guys want to peace be with u ^_^

it will be a at least 1/2 month till I get the rest of the site kinda ready.

main problem is remembering roll over effects, and learning the HTML 4 email submiton forms, thus it will be easier to send in ur drawings.drawings.

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posted 05-02-2005 12:43 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, I support the idea, but I wouldn't count on the previous subscribers! I think there's 100 people on the mailing list, but not a single one entered Tri's MVGC after I emailed them
If u get this going, Let me know what you what you want "stuck" and I can do that. If you want me to be one of the Judges, I can do that too What I can't do is supply any new art for it for at least a month. I'm starting a new job in just over a week so all my free time's gonna be spent on other stuff to start with. I'll see what I can do for the future, even if I just enter a fairly quick oekaki or something!

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posted 05-02-2005 01:40 AM     Profile for Erock   Email Erock     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey i like the sound of it all but if were going to be plugging this site to get new commers here i would suggest having a link to the page of previous characters so that new commers and look and see all the fan art thats been drawn in the past, you know so they'll get pumped up and know its for real.
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Tri_kento
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posted 05-02-2005 04:16 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well bomu i did have a few new faces enter tho half of them seemed not to understand the rules. and once i explained it to them, they were angry that u weren't running it so i said"neh do as u plz, it would be nice if u joined in butn eh , no worries"

any ways.. Am done the layout! I just need to figure out them roll over effects,(just a few more tutorials) and i need to find a new web host since the once i have right know is a little stichy on how big of files i can tranzfer. so yea.

Any suggestions\

o If any one knows, how do u make a submisson page 4 entries, i'd like to be inkidna of a aplication formate so people just fill in the box. but i don't know if that's possable tho HTML, and i hate php and Xhtml. also Dreamweaver is not in my systeam so eh..

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Bomu
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posted 05-02-2005 10:36 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tri_kento:

o If any one knows, how do u make a submisson page 4 entries, i'd like to be inkidna of a aplication formate so people just fill in the box. but i don't know if that's possable tho HTML, and i hate php and Xhtml.

Anything on the web that processes input data such as forms, forums etc require back-end code such as PHP, ASP, CGI. You can create a form with html but it's not very reliable. You'd need to get yourself on a server which allows prosessing scripts such PHP, then visit somewhere like http://php.resourceindex.com/ to find a pre-written script you can edit and use for your site- that's what I did for the MVGC submission form I used to have.

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posted 06-02-2005 12:29 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
mmm I might have 2 get into that, to i hate php. hehe but i can learn. Thanks!

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posted 14-02-2005 07:59 PM     Profile for Cloud   Author's Homepage   Email Cloud     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Scripts are cool I had one on my old site for a guestbook and it sent them to the wrong email address so this guy sent me like 100 email say "Why The !@#$ AM I GETTING ALL THIS MANGA CRAP? WTF IS MANGA ANYWAYS?!?! " lol that was funny I just ended up spamming him

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posted 14-02-2005 08:22 PM     Profile for Xion   Email Xion     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That would be kinda cool if you could make a character that you thought was cool and tie them into a game's storyline, allowing the perfect oppurtuoinity to make comics or alterinte ending to a video game..... or you could just leave it at the prince of persia theme that was originaly given.
and why cant we make one out of the website fourm that bomu has given us? Like some one makes a theme and then someone could make polls out of it?
O and if someone needsd any help I could helpout with a contest I will be more than glad to devote my time and effort to help with the emailing and posting part of the contest if any one is willing to make one.

[ 14-02-2005: Message edited by: Xion ]

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posted 14-02-2005 09:13 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well xion , if u would be so kind as to scrool the bar up and read this whole thing u would see the Jats made the idea that we use the form 4 it, then if people want. nt saying they have to, but if they want. when i finsh my site we can host of that untill bomu wants to jump back into the game.

not to sound like a bitch, just thought i'd let u in on the big secret.

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posted 15-02-2005 02:11 AM     Profile for Jats1   Email Jats1     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Its my turn in my fightclubs, and real life is draining me somewhat, but if I can come up with a WoW pic b4 you finish we can do a trial forum month, otherwise we can just wait till your sites done. I think that should be the subject though. Artists seem to love that game and lots of ppl like drawing fantasy in general *looks at kaori shima who he's just noticed likes making fantasy art*

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posted 15-02-2005 05:48 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well it's going to take awhile, i have to learn php and i don't have school 4 a week so am kinda laied back, so i think u got a little longer jats,
so untill i finsh u guys can host it . well unless no one wants it to run from my site, cuz then i'll just quite all together and let be was is. ? am good with ethier way.

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posted 15-02-2005 01:05 PM     Profile for Si13Nt   Email Si13Nt     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
mmm toast

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posted 15-02-2005 03:09 PM     Profile for Cloud   Author's Homepage   Email Cloud     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
toast

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posted 15-02-2005 04:36 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
toast ? what does toast have anything do with th e mvgc, am think u guys are spaming in my SECTION AGIAN!!! HAHAHAAA YOU WEAK PATHETIC FOOLS I'VE COME 4 UR SOULS!!!

lol j/k just plz don't spam on the board about nothing!

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posted 15-02-2005 05:23 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Totally. I should really write out some kinda rules pointing out exactly what spam is and why not to do it! There's a Random thoughts thread for random thoughts!

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Tri_kento
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posted 15-02-2005 07:57 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well bomu I think the people keep on doing it sicne there is no punishment or result of their spamming other then a little slap on the rist.

Am not saying we should ban/kick people but i don't know maby u/mods could like take away privalegs 4 awhile, like custom avatar and such. 4 like week or something. u something to get their attention.

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ah comon, ya cant say it doesnt make at least some1 giggle a little bit when they read something slightly random in the middle of a thread

unless ur being serious, which i spose u are...in that case IM SORRY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO its just the toast...it was really good toast...

on a side note, cool suggestion, yeah i agree, all gud

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Tri_kento
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posted 15-02-2005 11:39 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well silent it isn't so much as i like being mean and conguring evil spells and such to ruin ur guyss fun, it's just that bomu had made a thread 4 random thoughts and stuff, u could of posted ur toast thing there and that would of been fine, but when the title of a thread says ex) "new drawing" and some one clicks on it and finds it a thread about twix bars well it kinda tells the people that come here that we have no intention on following the rules and such.

Over all it's just and eye sore wast of space. You should really apreaciate the bomu made a thread that allows u to spam, many forms are not so nice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Si13Nt:
ah comon, ya cant say it doesnt make at least some1 giggle a little bit when they read something slightly random in the middle of a thread

- I've got nothing wrong with the forums being fun and light hearted to a degree, but some threads are meant to be kept serious and totally irrelevant random info probably pisses off as many (if not more) people than it makes giggle. If there's ever any random weird shit you wanna tell people about, you can post it in the lounge...

As Tri mentioned, I'll look into taking away member's privileges on the forum if problems persist and may even have to ban/suspend a few people- getting a lot of complaints over the last few months about certain members, so don't say I didn't warn you.

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posted 17-02-2005 12:07 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you Bomu, I appreciate it very much .

no any ways back 2 MVGC, would u guys like to have music in the back ground ? or would rather not?.

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