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Fransgaard
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posted 13-01-2004 02:00 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
First post here so hi to everybody.

I am a long time semi-fan of Manga and Anime and decided this new years eve to get back into drawing and to motivate myself I decided to learn something new: anime

So without further introduction here is my progress so far. The eveolvment up till this pic can be see on http://www.fransgaard.net/projects/anime

C&C and advice are welcome :-)

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posted 13-01-2004 10:18 PM     Profile for JBinc84   Author's Homepage   Email JBinc84     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
wow, thats some nice stuff you got there. You've made a strong start to your drawing, and your colouring is good too. Keep it up, as they say!

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Fransgaard
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posted 14-01-2004 09:31 AM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks, it is a start at least. I strongly feel that if I first get the eyes right, the rest will follow.

She originally had blackhair but it fell into the star background. But I am currently working on another suitable background because she looks better with black hair


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SturmDragoon
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posted 14-01-2004 02:43 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
it's a pretty good drawing overall, but I think you need to put at least a little shine in the hair (unless she hasn't washed it in weeks) and clearly draw the neck. Other than that, its a strong start


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Fransgaard
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posted 15-01-2004 11:10 AM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Shine in the hair, yes you might be right. The yellow hair was a bit of a quick add on.

not sure about the neck though, I wanted the helmet to be pretty clear that's why I left the neck out inside the helmet

Here she is with original black hair


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SturmDragoon
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posted 15-01-2004 06:25 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I must say the black hair looks a lot better on her, and the background is cool

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Fransgaard
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posted 16-01-2004 09:59 AM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
I must say the black hair looks a lot better on her

I agree. The yellow hair was a quick fix, so I am glad I replaced it.

btw, I think I have made a mistake. I thought Anime was comic and Manga Cartoon. Now somebody told me it is the other way around.

In Denmark where I am originally from all japanese cartoon movies are labelled "Manga" that's why I thought the comic books are called Anime.

Can somebody here confirm which is which please?

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SturmDragoon
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posted 16-01-2004 08:59 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Manga is the comic/graphic novel format, Anime is short for Animation

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posted 16-01-2004 09:22 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The left arm is positioned funny. For it to be behind the body, her torso needs to be turned to the left. And it still looks like her head is floating inside her helmet. You don't really need to draw her neck, but at least give a slight indication that it's there.

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posted 19-01-2004 12:56 AM     Profile for Samurai_Kyo   Email Samurai_Kyo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
first off it is a great pic and my opinion is that the black hair and the background in that pic is really good I like it

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Fransgaard
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posted 19-01-2004 03:54 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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The left arm is positioned funny. For it to be behind the body, her torso needs to be turned to the left.

Agree, but I am not re-drawing her. But yes you are right. And I still don't think the neck will do it any good. I tried it but it just became very cluttered.

Samurai_Kyo , thanks :-)

I am uploading a new one to night made in Illustrator from a drawing


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Fransgaard
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posted 19-01-2004 06:14 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here is a new girl made in Illustrator instead of Photoshop.

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posted 20-01-2004 03:42 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Allright, I liked the new picture, and I hate to constantly criticize people's drawings, but if you really want to learn, you might want to listen. Her shoulders aren't wide enough for her head size, and in conjuction with her shoulders, you need to make her hips wider. I think that her legs are just too long, with her feet being too small (only by a skosh though)

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Fransgaard
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posted 20-01-2004 04:28 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
no no Critisize all you want, that's why I posted :-)

Basically you think she should have been more curvy, maybe you are right.

When I did the drawing they look too short compared to the tutorials I have found around, so I actually stretched her legs to be just about the height of her foot longer, but the rest is as I drew it.


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posted 21-01-2004 02:26 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
if thats the case,then fine, but there is a system of proportioning for drawing these characters. I'll post it when I find it (its probably buried under piles of debris in my lab)

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posted 21-01-2004 02:28 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
as far as her legs looking too short, I really couldn't say why that would be. How short were they?

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posted 21-01-2004 03:43 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
They ended where her trouselegs end now, not much difference.

About proportions, here's a good site http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/body/stick.htm


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posted 23-01-2004 12:50 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Fransgaard, it's interesting to check out your progress and from what I can see you're going great. I wonder what sort of thing you'll be producing after week 100!

I like the space girl- and prefer the second version- the background looks a little more solid.

As for anime and manga (I was checking out your site ), it's true manga refers to comics, while anime refers to animation, but I believe you're still ok to call your stuff 'anime artwork' since the look of your stuff shows more resemblance to an anime still or freeze frame than page from a manga. Most people that draw this sort of style tend to illustrate single characters rather than sequential manga pages so they have just as much right to call their stuff manga as you do anime! Anime and manga are not only an art format (comic, animation, whatever), but a style in their own right.

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Fransgaard
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posted 23-01-2004 09:36 AM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bomu, thanks :-)

Yes I am looking forward to seeing where this leads too.

quote:
Anime and manga are not only an art format (comic, animation, whatever), but a style in their own right.


Aha, that is new to me... what is the difference between the two?

I'll probably change it to Manga anyway since my secret plan is to end up with a small online comic at the end of the year, but it is only a plan so far.


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posted 23-01-2004 01:19 PM     Profile for SturmDragoon   Email SturmDragoon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ummmm... I'm having trouble posting images, can anyone help me out here?

I've never really posted images before... so I'm pretty inexperienced.

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Originally posted by Fransgaard:
Aha, that is new to me... what is the difference between the two?

When drawing this sortta stuff, it doesn't really matter which you call it. But for arguements sake, here in the west Manga is still used to refer to Japanese comics, while anime for Japanese animation.

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Originally posted by SturmDragoon:
Ummmm... I'm having trouble posting images, can anyone help me out here?
I've never really posted images before... so I'm pretty inexperienced.

You need to be able to upload files from your computer to the internet, then link whose files from the forum. The instant UBB code will help when you post. Or to link files, just paste the web url (where they can be found on the net) in a forum post and away you go!

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posted 31-01-2004 05:12 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well for first timer very very good only i have 1 problem with you new pic i like how you straed away from the 1/2 chibi girls to normal person it's just the expression on her face does not sutie the situation, But that my opinion so u don't have take me to serios. Just a thought and if posable in your next image i know manga girls are spos to have "bigger" eyes then males well there is very thin line that seperates bigger from a little to big, once agian juft my thoughts i hope this helps can't wait to see your next picture!

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Fransgaard
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posted 02-02-2004 09:41 AM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Tri_kento

Thanks for the advice and I see you point on expression on the drawing you sent me. I'll post it on the site tonight so people can see what you mean.

I thought her eyes couldn't get too big? Maybe it works best on very comic-like characters and not a more lifelike person as her


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posted 03-02-2004 03:21 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well i am glad my tip that gave helped i'd like to see another pic soon seening as what u can do in just 1 week *smiles gives a thumbs up*

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posted 23-03-2004 01:44 PM     Profile for Fransgaard   Author's Homepage   Email Fransgaard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well there are a few more pics up on http://www.fransgaard.net/projects/anime/
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