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Dan
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posted 11-06-2005 12:39 AM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why hello there, this'll be my intro as im the new noobie in this place. im just startin out with anime/manga n what-not, ive joined in the hope that one day i can be as good as you guys... i have below the first ever anime figure ive drawn from scratch. im no good at drawing using only the imagination so a few pointers and scaling methods would be a very nice helping...where have i gone wrong and how do i fix it??? (arms too short, legs a lil manky)...

...(and how might i go about changing my publicly displayed name, im sure i read somewhere that it can be done)

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Dan
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posted 11-06-2005 03:05 PM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

that one is my little reject, its the sohpie elis bexter of the anime world.

this is one im proud of, pretty eyes
i'll give a go at CGing on that ast one... and btw, what does CG stand for (i feel like such a fool asking that )

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Dan York
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posted 11-06-2005 07:13 PM     Profile for Dan York   Author's Homepage   Email Dan York     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Dan, welcome to the OM boards. There is an absolute shedload of talent which posts frequently on these boards, so you'll never be short of people to ask for advice! And don't worry, we all had to start somewhere!

But what a start, much better than some of my first-time efforts, I can tell you... But as you say, there are a few scaling issues. It's all basic anatomy, and the good news is you can grab loads and loads of life drawing books and books on human anatomy for drawing out there. Obviously, stylistic variations are abound, especially when you compare Western and Eastern graphic styles, but the basic rules remain the same.

I noticed in your drawings the necks on your characters were very long and the heads rather large in comparison to the rest of the body. For adult bodies, the body tends to be five to six head lengths in length, then the rest of the physique can be scaled to that. Also, arms tend to terminate about half way done the thigh. But I like the fact that you got the right "natural" shape to your first character's breasts - unless they are "enhanced", shall we say, they do have a tendency to hang in that fashion. Also, a lot of people stick them a little too high up the chest; they tend to begin about half way down.

Finally, a point on feet. They hardly ever tend to point the same way, unless they are standing to attention. A good rule of thumb for characters standing still upright is about a 45 degree angle between the points of the feet. I hope that was of some help to you!

Oh, as for CG. Don't feel foolish, I'm not strictly sure what it stands for myself. As far as I know, in animation, it stands for Computer Generated, but that is usually appended with Imagery (CGI). Of course that doesn't make much sense when applied to CG 2D art, but hey, who am I to buck the trend.

Ciao!

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KaiserD
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posted 11-06-2005 09:03 PM     Profile for KaiserD   Author's Homepage   Email KaiserD     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Most people start off by copying their favourite drawings, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. A general skill in drawing and an understanding of the human body will help make your sketching more fluid though, as they feel very rigid postures. So....just practice, practice and more practice...

Accept that you're not gonna be a master straight away, so keep your head down and just keep chipping at the task. If you're anything like me you'll always be frustrated at the lack of progress speed, but once you stop and look back, you realise you've made great improvements along the way.

Edit : I feel like the only person on this board who keeps sex and general nakedness away from public places I would tell you all to behave, but it would be a waste of time

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Dan
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posted 11-06-2005 11:59 PM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
at the mo, im on a multimedia course which has a loada stuff jammed into a 2 year course... one of these subjects is art and this art teacher is too good to be true compared to my work. blame him for the nudity, his advice had me draw my people nude, apparently its a lot easier to add clothes on after the initial figure work is complete. ive just never got round to spending time on clothing, besides they look a lot better without .

as for all that advice, it definately did help. its all that stuff about "how many heads" to and from each point that i want and need to know. another bit of info id really like to learn would be the muscle structures all around the body, particularly on the male arm. as for those images used as examples, well lets just say there will be many idols to look up to within this forum.

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Dan
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posted 14-06-2005 02:59 PM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

my best yet id guess, as youve seen i love to leave the eyes blank so crits... i meant to do that

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Jats1
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posted 14-06-2005 03:14 PM     Profile for Jats1   Email Jats1     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
good stuff for early tries and I see improvement in the newest one. there is a formula you can learn for manga proportions - this is what taught me:
http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/body/sketch1.htm
there are lots of other tutorials there that you will probably find helpful, so have a look around

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Dan
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posted 14-06-2005 03:50 PM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i visited that site long ago, i didnt realize there were so many tutorials... just think where i could be today :'(
but yeah, thanks for that link and praise, with any luck you should see yet another improvement some time soon... thnx again

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Dan
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posted 16-06-2005 01:01 PM     Profile for Dan   Email Dan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

this took me a good part of a day to complete... my first attempt at colouring a figure in photoshop. so you critics out there... be nice.
i think the reflections and shadows are a tad off, just made it up really. how do i correct whichever mistakes ive made

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bl00d
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posted 16-06-2005 01:07 PM     Profile for bl00d   Email bl00d     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
cool dude. they look cool with colour bit better then my try st drawing figures lol.

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Jats1
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posted 16-06-2005 01:44 PM     Profile for Jats1   Email Jats1     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
good for a first try. the rendering is a little off, but that will all change with practice! one bit of advice I can give is to never shade things using black and white. pic different darker colours, like blues and purples, and theings like yellows for the highlights. don't be afraid of experimenting!

also experiment with the opacity settings, and get a smoother transition between colours.

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