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KaiserD
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posted 04-12-2005 09:55 PM     Profile for KaiserD   Author's Homepage   Email KaiserD     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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I think it's ok after a horrible, crippling artists block though the flaws in the neck and some of the painting really irk me. I havn't done watercolours in forever either so I guess I shouldn't complain too much really.

Any thoughts?


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Dekar
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posted 04-12-2005 11:51 PM     Profile for Dekar   Email Dekar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Neat, Solar Fairy I was expecting something more in Stars.

Hmm, watercolors quite nice. I'm not really familiar in this but have seen some great things to awe from it. Just from looking, I believe you tried to paint/brush a bit too pressure like. I may be wrong but I think Watercolor is about twisting the brush and letting it create those good color bounds unlike other paint forms. So, probably let the edge glide instead of trying to pound on a heavy stroke it's like making a seamless dress continuous stroke.. Timing is key in this got to know when to blead colors and not to extract I think those that never tried this. I wouldn't call it a pain in the ass just different, but I give you hands down for trying to repick it up.

I'd say too much pressure was used let the brush slide more instead of filling. (perhaps change brush type more) Aside from that I know some like to blead out colors alot but I think you might've took too much out.. I know that is one of the major faults of this type can ruin or break the piece. Looks blotchy to me maybe wrong paper?

Anyway cool wings haven't seen that awhile on a fairy reminds me of autumn oak leaves. I second the comment said a bit to "yellow" perhaps a blue/purple with tad of grey blend in background would focus your eye more on her. Maybe adding in some sun haze flare over/behind.. but that is going overboard I won't even word.

The lines to me are too defined here, typically I think they shouldn't be so apparent in a waterstyle. Maybe cause they were thick pencil, I think you should keep lines really super light when doing that. Marker over them later if you desire, think that is what most do.

Anyway, what brought up your interest to try that again spontaneous combustion?


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Angelo
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posted 06-12-2005 03:56 PM     Profile for Angelo   Author's Homepage   Email Angelo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey nice work with the watercolours on this.
With the neck, it's just a matter of indenting the bit under the chin a little, it's no big deal though, I don't think it takes away a lot from the piece.
One thing that bothers me a little is her right arm, is the forearm towards us or behind her? If it's the first case, then it might be an idea to make it a little shorter, to show the foreshortening on it. If it's going behind her, then I'd get rid of the line connecting the forearm to the shoulder, and maybe replace it with one going the opposite way (does any of that make sense? Just say if it doesn't and I'll try to be more clear).
Toes look a little stubby, I'd lengthen them a little. Also, the foot itself is slanting the wrong way, just make it go the other way and you'll be ok.
Don't take any of these the wrong way, I think the rest of the body dynamics look fine, and the whole piece overall has been done really well.

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KaiserD
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posted 06-12-2005 04:43 PM     Profile for KaiserD   Author's Homepage   Email KaiserD     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Awww don't worry about me hon, I'm well weathered to crits and I'm very appreciative of the help.

I agree pretty much with everything, although I did make several mistakes when doing the painting...actually after the painting. The ink ran in several places and my heart nearly stopped LOL I had been quite happy with it till then, but that's the thing with watercolour once a mistake is made, that's it lol

With regards to the background, there is blue in the picture but my scanner is aging and it almost dropped it compleatly. The picture is more yellow where the scanner has made it orangy. At least you don't get that with cg lol I think making it stronger would have clashed a bit but I guess I'm not a risk taker when it comes to colours

Oh and definatly agreed about the pencil, what a pain in the ass lol

I had focused most on my anatomy as it's my weakest point right now, next time I'll scan the pencil so I can correct it before it's too late.

Thanks for everything xxx


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Dekar
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posted 06-12-2005 07:37 PM     Profile for Dekar   Email Dekar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, trying to watercolor over a pencil drawing will be very visible (think it defeats the purpose).

Just try to remember to lightly skim in areas if your going to do a watercolor. It's just you don't want to push hard deep down into the paper or it will make it so it's sealed almost washing the water aside. Hmm, if you want to be all grand and professional about it I think Soft Lead type pencils would be best but it isn't required. Although I think it would be cool maybe if you wanted to define certain areas with marker/paint gently and it doesn't have to be a outline or 100% around the boarder.

Did you use a Heavy Drawing paper? I'm no paper wizard.. but I know when you do this type of painting you don't typically want to use Hvy Draw paper or thin slick paper. Slicker you lose control of how the paint slides = more mistakes; more gradient you use it's going to give you absolute control but your going to be filling loosing the smoothness of brushing. You want to use a medium between those two.. I just think that's why some of my comments were coming from. I know there is a special paper but I'd suggest light drawing paper with a bit of gradient I think that's what you need. (to get best look)

I guess it's a pain in the ass really for some, I know there are good painters that just can't handle the frustration of watercolors.

By Filling I just meant, looks like your stroking from the middle trying to fill the space decent to the edges. I just think you should approach it from the edges and let it glide. You don't have to be exactness it's unlike digital slightly. But, it shouldn't be overwhelming.. (not sure if you took that wrong)

Figure wise it's good, but it looked to me like you wanted to make it more visual intent. Just looks like you were going for more, but stopped half-way inbetween when you where unsure.. sort of what Angelo was suggesting I think.

Mostly some lose confidence when you hit to around details in hands/feet and can't understand how to make them match to the body. Suggest you try to understand that there is no perfect circles/straight lines on a figure. To take that in, you'll learn how to draw them easily as well enhance whatever your trying to reach.. (sounds like of load of bs I know)

Love how where trying to position the arm on the right towards us in mid-perspective floating. Think you got lost what you wanted, anyway I salute you for trying if you were. That is difficult as hell to get that appeal! (skew and field of view is well worth it)

Alright, I really don't want to make massive posts.. Might burn your eyes out trying to read it all lol.


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KaiserD
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posted 06-12-2005 07:54 PM     Profile for KaiserD   Author's Homepage   Email KaiserD     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
When I paint I start with the darkest area (which is normally an edge anyway), it will lighten up as you go across, then depending on the effect I will take another or darker colour, wet or on dry. If I accidently went over an area that should have been lighter, I will either put a ligher layer on or dab with a tissue to bring it up.

If you meant around the background, I don't think I did start from the edges, to be honest I don't remember what is was I did LOL

I'm getting better with legs but still got problems with arms and hands, I agree with what you say though.

And it is watercolour paper I got from the states, it hates pencil lol ^_^


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