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CoolOtaku
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posted 31-05-2002 04:13 PM     Profile for CoolOtaku   Author's Homepage   Email CoolOtaku     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
On a lot of my drawings it isn't as much my coloring that I have problems with as it is the lines on them. How can I get my lines to be smoother like it would look on an anime? It's really annoying when they end up fuzzy or dirty or something like that. Can someone please help me??
If you want to see what I mean by my lines being weird check out my website in the fanart section. the url is... http://www.geocities.com/coolotaku6/enter
If the link is wrong just say so and I'll fix it. It had better work...

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 31-05-2002 07:09 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Link is working hmm from the pictures you have drawn I would say that your major problem is the paper you use it looks like it sucks to much ink which than bleeds on the sides of your normal lines.

so try to get better papers.
most drawer use bristol board paper (dunno the exact name someone else around hear maybe)
personaly I'm to lazy to check for it in my own city and so I use photo glossy paper for Inkjet printers the surface is ultra smooth and isn't sucking Ink at all(maybe a bit expensiv but it is allready around here).

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posted 01-06-2002 04:51 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, laying out inks isn't easy, but there's a few ways to improve your line work.

Use a pen with good, solid ink flow- pens with bad ink flow look all crumbly when you draw with them.

Paper bleed can be a problem as Giam said.

Get longer, smoother lines by locking up your fingers around the pen, then ink from the arm, rather than the fingers or wrist.

Build up you lines gradually - it takes time, but if you start out with a thin pen line, then gradually add to it, you can thicken and smoothen it out as you go.

Try to distribute equal amounts or pressure on your pen as you ink a line.

Look at where each line will start and stop, you can create one whole line quickly and good lookingly if you know where the line will begin and finish!

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CoolOtaku
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posted 11-06-2002 06:43 PM     Profile for CoolOtaku   Author's Homepage   Email CoolOtaku     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
So that's what I've been doing wrong.. okay I need good paper, control of the pen,and to just work on my talent.Thanks you all! Are Micron pens good for inking cause that's what I use.

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the metalman
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posted 11-06-2002 08:26 PM     Profile for the metalman   Email the metalman     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
its all about the Sakura pens..
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Bomu
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posted 12-06-2002 03:32 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, I hear microns will do the job. I think even Joe "Battle Chasers" Madureria uses them! But I've personally had no experience using them. In the UK all we get are either Edding 1800 profipens or Piolt DR drawing pens- both of which are pretty crappy especially after a few weeks of usage >_< Luckly I hardly find the need to ink, as lond as I can keep my pencils neat.

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 12-06-2002 05:58 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Personaly I use copic multiliner (no sakura in germany).
Which are good enough for me.
The ink isn't water resistent (but I dont see the point of it anyways) and they came with two brushpens (even if I'm not using them, I think they are cool).

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CoolOtaku
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posted 12-06-2002 10:31 PM     Profile for CoolOtaku   Author's Homepage   Email CoolOtaku     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
do you have any suggestions for cheap but good paper? I really have no clue on this kind of stuff... I just know that some paper is worse than others. I normally just have drawings from my sketch book that I ink and scan. When I'm changing the levels and curves of my lineart in PS is there a certain something I should look out for? I always end up with pencil smudges left on the drawing and it makes it impossible to color it well. Maybe I'm the problem. Yeah I just need to be cleaner... well, maybe but maybe not... I'll do some tests...

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 12-06-2002 11:29 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well lets see the paper stuff is a bit complicated, 'couse I don't know much about paper in general and specialy what you can buy where you live.
So I would say either go to an Art shop that sells paper and discribe your problem, or check some computerstores and search for printer paper(photo,glossy).
See how much it cost and buy the cheapest.
I think when it has a glossy surface it should work no mather how well it performs printing photos.

a few general ideas,

when you alter the curves aim for a subtle S form.

To avoid pencil smudges use harder pencils (h2-h6).
But dont press them too hard or you will damage the paper, leaving a line that cant be erased (especial with mechanical pencils).

Use a kneaded eraser to get rid of smudges (also good to lighten helplines or lines that are to dark and interfer with your inks).

Keep your hands dry and/or lay another sheet of paper under your hand where it touches the drawing.

Instead of inking your pencil drawing direct, scan the pencils in(adjust the scan till the lines are light and change them to blue).
Then print them out, now ink the printed version(alternativly you can trace your original with a lightbox).

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Shirai
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posted 13-06-2002 12:14 AM     Profile for Shirai   Email Shirai     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hmm the paper i find easier to ink on is a type called Cartridge paper. slightly thicker than printer paper and not as tough as card :3

lol if you live in the UK check down your local WHSmiths for one of their pads (which will have a pencil sketch of a giraffe):3

There's a process I use to get real clean lineart and that is to use layout paper (or known as tracing paper) place the layout paper over your sketch, tape the corners with masking tape (so it won't tear the paper) and ink away. When you're done scan and you'll have one clean lineart :3 simple?

Its a boring process and annoying when you mess up :/ but thats inking for ya :3


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Hellangel
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posted 13-06-2002 01:56 PM     Profile for Hellangel   Author's Homepage   Email Hellangel     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm no expert but I use printer paper outline it in pen(just normal pen but not ballpoint) and then sharper the lines on a paint program here I'll show you it works for me but dont tell me my stuff sucks I know that already!
Raiden-adjusted
Raiden original
See the difference? anyway this is what you do if you fancy using this method on photoshop go to image pick adjust choose brightness/contrast choose something like
Brightness= +44 or adjust it to your liking
Contrast= +82 etc.
On paintshop do the same if you dont have any then....I dunno use those hand techniques suggested.

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