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Topic: Questions about inking and drawing sizes
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Keith
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Member # 56
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posted 09-07-2002 06:12 AM
    
I find with pencils its really impossible to get a good enough line to not have to ink your work, so I have to spend half an hour to fourty-five minutes tracing it with PSP. In art class back in my high school days they had all these ink pens, the kind you dip. They were really crappy, had ink dried all over them, left rough lines, and it was done on crappy paper.
Question being do you guys still use those onld kind of pens you dip into the ink? Do they work much better than what I've encountered on better paper, with higher quality ink, and if they are cleaned properly? Or do you use more advanced markers like ones that are basically felts, with varying widths. Second question being how big are your pencils? Right now my sketch books are about 22 x 30 cm, 9 x 12 inches, and I somtimes even have trouble filling that up.
I fine when doing a full figure it often restricts or effects my pose, as well as proportions (like drawing stubby legs and such). Or I have to draw it so small that I loose alot of detail. Drawing a head smaller than 1 or 2 squared inches is impossible to draw detail for me at least. I find bigger I can draw alot better, but im not sure if I should focus on better smaller detail, or better bigger detail. Right now im drawing a robot and can't make a good head. Better than my last robot, if I can just get a decent head on it, I'll post it in the works in progress section probably.
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Jackel
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Member # 47
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posted 09-07-2002 07:08 AM
I almost never use ink anymore, I think I'm starting to get a smooth pencil line on my stuff. I find that there are certain things that you can do with a pencil that you can't do with ink. Like very faint shading that you hardly notice. As soon as you ink it, it jumps out and spoils the effect of the minimal shading. I use ink in a bottle with a brush when I need to ink large areas of black, but if my paper isn't thick enough it tends to curl up because of all the ink. Mostly, when I do ink, I use ink pens with varying thickness. The ones I'm using right now are Staedtler Pigment Liner's. I have 005,01,03,05,and 07 sizes. They work really great when I do use them. I usually draw enought to fill up the page nicely. I have the same sized sketchbooks as you, though I rarely use the larger one except when I'm starting my paintings. It's always good, I think, to be able to draw detail small or big. Right now I have trouble getting a lot of detail into large drawings, but I'm working on it. Hope that helped you a bit, though there will probably be people with better advice after me. 
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Bomu
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Member # 1
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posted 09-07-2002 09:22 AM
~Good questions.
As far as I know, the majority of professional comic book inkers use dib pens still. I personally can't get on with them very well and the unconstant inflow is frustrating - especially if it runs out half way though a curve! However, buy a good pen, pot of ink, and you could save yourself money in the long run. Idon't ink digitally either, mainly cos I don't know how to use paths in Illustrator >_<Yeah, I almost always run outta space with my paper (don't use sketch books any more, since they're harder to scan from and too textured). Then drawing a scaled down full figure you have to leave out certain details, compared to if you had an entire page just for the face.
For example this had a head of about 2 centimeters wide, so probbly about 1 inch long. I kept his features fairly simple, and the smaller you go, the less detail you'll add. Check out crowd scenes in comic books to see what I mean. This example was also just pencil + patience!
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G.i.A.m.
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Member # 14
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posted 09-07-2002 04:56 PM
well nib pens are the inking choice among artist for centuries.
so they should be pretty good for it.me I haven't got the hang on them maybe I should try them myself again. but when you manage to control them right, you can get great lines with subtile linewight. For paper I normaly use standard copypaper (A4, its cheap) for sketches poses and stuff like that.
And if I need to ink, I scan my final pencils.
Reprint them on photo paper in a size that seems nice for the details and endresult size(no need to draw on A2 when the finihed get resized to 200*200 pixel). btw. cool new stuff Bomu
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Wer nicht vom Meister lernt, lernt nie etwas. Wer nur vom Meister lernt, lernt nie genug.
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