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Ermac
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posted 15-02-2003 02:23 AM     Profile for Ermac   Email Ermac     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum but not to drawing. Since the Polykarbons haven't answered my question yet maybe you guys can.

I don't seem able to comprehend the princibles of shading. I have tried and tried but they always come out terrible. How are you supposed to use your pencil to create that smooth graceful lines that from shading on your drawings? When I use the side of the pencil it just doesn't seem to work out.
Please if anyone knows tips on how to correctly shade I'm desperate lol.


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G.i.A.m.
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posted 21-02-2003 02:06 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hm I heard from several art teachers that using the side of a pencil, is a bad habbit that produces ugly results (and I have to agree with them).
Instead hold your pencil like you normaly do and just draw line at line (takes more time but looks better).

For shading with pencils you use pressure, more pressure = darker lines.
To get a smooth shading work in layers.
Start soft and then go over certain areas that are darker and so on.
Till you reached the darkest shade, in the darkest spots (press the pencil as hard as you can people tend to press too soft).

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<Ermac>
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posted 22-02-2003 02:22 AM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks alot. I followed your advice and I was working on a sketch when I started to shade and your right, working slowly and applying enough pressure works wonders.
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StuckMojo
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posted 22-02-2003 04:18 AM     Profile for StuckMojo   Author's Homepage   Email StuckMojo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I sometimes use the lazy way and smudge.. It's not very good for values of the drawing but the shading is very smooth.

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Dekar
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posted 24-02-2003 12:40 AM     Profile for Dekar   Email Dekar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Some artists tend to use a blender of some sort. Your thumb or a small piece of paper rolled into a tip at the end will soften the shades together a tad. Don't go too overboard on the smudging ruins the clarity though. Shading is all about pressure like Giam stated. Try to picture where the light is coming from and how the picture reacts to that light. I find shading looks incredible if you go for a wide field of shading from a super thin shade almost white to a somewhat dark heavy. Try not to leave too much bright perfect white spaces. Also you make some highlights and such by using your eraser over your shaded regions. Be careful when doing that though too much and you’re left back trying to mesh the shades you done.
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SongSiuHua
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posted 24-02-2003 06:05 AM     Profile for SongSiuHua   Email SongSiuHua     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ive found the best results are like Giam said and start lightly with single lines, adding pressure and layering as you need to get darker. Just to add i usually keep all the lines going in one direction diagonally right to left since im right handed. Keeps everything nice and neat with little smudging to ruin your pic! Hope its helpful!
Oh and i try to never use and eraser to take out value However when i do i use a kneaded eraser and knead it till its sorta warm and soft and i lightly press it down on the spot needing the erasing. That way i can take out the value but not screw up the line work.

[ 24-02-2003: Message edited by: SongSiuHua ]

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