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ColorFool
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posted 03-09-2004 07:03 PM     Profile for ColorFool   Author's Homepage   Email ColorFool     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ok, weird thing to post this, but I just need to VENT somewhere....

a friend of mine also draws manga-ish style drawings, and she's good. I'm not good (heheheh) and she's WAYYYYY better than me. I've got no problem with that :-). But lately, I've been putting some of my drawings on the web, making a few birthday cards out of my drawings, and she's got a huge problem with that. If she sees the drawing, she'll critique EVERYTHING she can find about it: "no shoulders" "face is completely screwed up" "the belt doesn't wrap around the waist like it should" "those flowers look tacky" "stupid pose" "why the hell is her hair blue" and it ANNOYS ME even though I've spoken to her about it.

oh well, just needed to say that somewhere.

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<Erock>
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posted 05-09-2004 07:39 PM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As for your situation if she’s a girl and she’s really hot. I would make a drawing of her naked. Make sure you dim all the lights and put some soft soul music on. Ohaw yea. Then ask her to come into your candle lit bedroom. Then ask her to critique the drawing of her naked (that will turn her on ) She will be like my boobs are all wrong and my ass is not tight enough. This is where you say, well let me get a better look baby. Ohaw yea. Then you (The following text is censored), you shout out lines like: Is this long enough and does this wrap around like it should be. After some more (The following text is censored) you say that was great. Then she will never critique your artwork again.

On a serious side you might want to tell her how you feel about her harsh analysis on your drawing or just not ask her: How does this look? anymore


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posted 05-09-2004 07:40 PM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You know the same stuff happens to me too. When ever I’m done with a drawing and I ask my friend, what do you think? He says oh I would make the neck longer. Why didn’t you draw a mouth? I would have made the drawing bigger so you could see it better. Last time he told me that I said dude you know I’m not going to change it.
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Zankouken
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posted 05-09-2004 11:14 PM     Profile for Zankouken   Author's Homepage   Email Zankouken     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
LMAO,
You know Erock the more I read through your post the more Colorfool's problem looks like a blessing.
You lucky dawg ColorFool but might I also suggest scented candles, you know just to help the mood.

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ColorFool
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posted 05-09-2004 11:38 PM     Profile for ColorFool   Author's Homepage   Email ColorFool     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If i were a guy, sure, good idea... but this friend of mine, but even though she's blonde she's not that pretty in my eyes, heh... but how would I know??

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Bomu
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posted 05-09-2004 11:58 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
*moved to ART TALK*

Lol Erock, good idea for the guys to try out next time perhaps..

ColorFool, I think your friend is trying to be helpful, but obviously doesn't realise she's having a negative effect. Or she might have low self esteem so is critisisng your stuff to make her feel worthy?

All I can suggest is you ask her for a little encouragement and positive feedback on your stuff, or just don't show it to her at all. It's cool enough that you're going to the effort to draw personal greetings cards and stuff so as long as you're happy to draw and the person you're drawing the card for or whatnot likes it, do you really need your friend's opinion?

It's good to vent. I hope you can sort it out.

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Zankouken
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posted 06-09-2004 01:07 AM     Profile for Zankouken   Author's Homepage   Email Zankouken     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmm your not a guy? Is it just me or does Erock's idea seem to be getting better and better?
Seriously though if you have already spoken with her about and she is still sore maybe its because she see's you as competition?

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Tri_kento
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posted 06-09-2004 01:24 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ok this is going to sound really mean and i can almost see in the future that am going to lose my head for say..typing this.

I would listen to your friend, I've always wanted some on to tell me wats wrong with my pictures and say what would be better looking, since I think a public eye has more brains behind it then one persons thought. To this rule there are exceptions ex) well it looks good but the monalisa could really use a bigger smile lets see some teeth) see wat I mean.

wat am getting at be greatfull your friend feels comfotable enough to tell you the truth even tho it may hurt. If any thing let it be your insperation.

and maby a few candles.

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ColorFool
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posted 06-09-2004 01:40 AM     Profile for ColorFool   Author's Homepage   Email ColorFool     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If I were a guy, I would soooo go to erok's idea, heheh, but as I am, i sorta find it disturbing... there's those two sides to me, you know :-p

Anyway, thanks all. It's actually pretty cool this friend of mine (lets say her name for once, Ally). Ally actually bought Ben's book with me at barnes&noble before she moved to DC, and she had a look at the card on AOL picture share. Ally sometimes makes incrediably useful comments (tri, that's where her honesty comes in handy) especially when she was visiting me in NY a few weeks back. When she saw the card though, and other pictures I had drawn, she critiqued them much more extensively than she would have, and you know, insulted a lot of aspects of the works instead of consructively criticizing them.

Oh well, hopefully she'll get over it. I just won't show her other drawings. They're actually pretty good considering I've only been drawing for about 3 weeks.

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Dagan
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posted 13-11-2004 10:36 AM     Profile for Dagan   Email Dagan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My friend used to do the same thing!!! Now I show him Bomu's art and I say I did it...Now he thinks I am an art God!!
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Si13Nt
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posted 13-11-2004 01:23 PM     Profile for Si13Nt   Email Si13Nt     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
*shouts* Everyone grab a pointed stick and head towards Dagan haha

lol Zankouken u randy bugger HAHA

oh and Colorfool, if someone says something bad about a picture i draw.....THEY DIE muahahahaha

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Zephos
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posted 16-11-2004 06:03 PM     Profile for Zephos   Author's Homepage   Email Zephos     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hhahaa... Lucky for me, I'm thick skinned about my work because of all the criticism my brother gave me growing up! Of course, when it's vague like "That sucks" or "That's Dog !@#$" it doesn't hurt as much as when the specifically target key areas and start pecking like vultures, but eh, that's life for you. Never let them see you erase Err.... so to speak... despite erasing being an important artistic technique.

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Cloud
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posted 15-12-2004 11:56 PM     Profile for Cloud   Author's Homepage   Email Cloud     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I am pretty sensitive to critisism althou (how the !$@# do you spell that?) my friends all pile it on me like bull!@#$. my best idea that my brain can come up with is listen to her. now lets all grab spears and torches and start a stampde.

bingo

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Zephos
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posted 16-12-2004 01:30 AM     Profile for Zephos   Author's Homepage   Email Zephos     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Taking criticism is like eating a crab... it's frustrating, it's messy, it can bloody cut you if you don't know how, and it's easier just to stick your fork into a big dead cow, but if you are looking for it and are used to it, then it works in your favor when you finally get to taste the meat.

Of course, getting criticism when your not looking for it can be just down right painful at times

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Cloud
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posted 17-12-2004 09:44 PM     Profile for Cloud   Author's Homepage   Email Cloud     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
okay... so they don't give me sooooo much critisism, because they know that I'm waaaaaaaaay better than them. once and a while thay say :"oh, their boobs are too big" (a very common problemo for me) but I don't care. but if they give me somethin' good like: "oh, the whole drawing sucks !@#$!", then I can go and pick a random drawing of thiers and critic everything. Buahhahahaha!

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VirginMan
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posted 22-01-2005 03:33 AM     Profile for VirginMan   Author's Homepage   Email VirginMan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Mabey you should listen to to her advice.
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