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d riley
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posted 08-01-2006 04:26 PM     Profile for d riley   Email d riley     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Is there a good or easy way of doing the eyes?
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Tri_kento
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posted 08-01-2006 07:04 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Not really, eye's tend to be a big feature in drawings, and if u make em to simple looking and ur drawing is all detailed, it will come out wonky. Learning to draw eye's takes alot of practice, take me for example, i've been trying to master eye's for about 2-3 years now and am just starting to see real improvment.

The best advice is to just practice.

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evilone
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posted 08-01-2006 08:53 PM     Profile for evilone   Author's Homepage   Email evilone     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tri_kento:
Not really, eye's tend to be a big feature in drawings, and if u make em to simple looking and ur drawing is all detailed, it will come out wonky. Learning to draw eye's takes alot of practice, take me for example, i've been trying to master eye's for about 2-3 years now and am just starting to see real improvment.

The best advice is to just practice.


wow you must really stink

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Tri_kento
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posted 08-01-2006 10:38 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well evil am not one to blow my own horn but i've seen ur stuff and am much better then u.... so i wouldn't talk. I was giving advice to the guy, i wasn't talking to u.

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TK
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posted 10-01-2006 10:20 PM     Profile for TK   Email TK     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If you look up anime on deviantart you can get full turorials on how to draw eyes hope that helps
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Zephos
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posted 25-01-2006 10:07 PM     Profile for Zephos   Author's Homepage   Email Zephos     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
(Long Zephos post alert! As if I actually do short posts, hahahaha ^_^)


Ah, the eyes ^_^ Not enough can be said about the good old windows to the soul in anime/manga style... errr... especially in regards to the healthy female bipeds.

Eyes in anime/manga work is pretty much an artists signature and it's pretty normal for even a professional artists to constantly refine them to optimize appeal and execution.

Anyway, outside of tutorials and practice, the number one recommendation I have to give for new anime/manga style artists when drawing eyes is this:


1. Find out what your favorite anime/manga eyes are, then compile and analyze them. Really study them for what they really are and see them in shapes and in perportions.

2. Composite individual features of each eye to form an achetype of the "perfect eye" that you want to emulate, such as the thickness of the upper lash, the size and location of the highlights, the size of the pupil, the spread of the lashes, the tallness of the eye versus the length, the lower eye line, eyelid and eye brow distance ratios, the distance between the eyes, and the default openess of the eye. With the last one, some artists naturally draw the eye fully open by default like Arina Tanamura and Koge Donbo, others aim for a half open sexy default look, like the "bloodline" of Studio Pierrot).

3. Try to refine and establish it in your work in mutliple angles and situations to see if it is practical and effective in actual drawing.


If you are inexperienced, you might not be able to downsample and break down advanced eyes and think of them both in color and in black and white when working, but that's why artists need to practice in the first place.

Of course, the simplest and easiest eye to draw is a black dot, but like Tri_kento said, try and have the detail of your character's eyes balance with the rest of the drawing. If not balance, they should take priority over the rest of the drawing unless the mood calls for obscurity. Drawing recognizable eyes is easy, drawing eyes that balance between distinct, beautiful, efficient and versatile in execution that screams off the page with heart felt soul is a different game. Of course, this is all taking into account, along with more importantly, if it fits the character and genre, as there are many professional artists who use very simple eyes, simply because complicated eyes would throw off the balance.

Some artists have the ability to trick the viewer into seeing eyes as being more complicated than they actually are. Koge Donbo is a master at this with her trademark "Egg in a Nest" eye style, and the funny thing is that in some of her work, the insides of the eyes are filled with 95% black with suprisingly small highlights (Novices might think highlights = cute, but the opposite can be equality true), the only sign of color is a small line at the base of the eye. As an artist who has found a large corner in the cute market, this comes as a surprise to most of her fans who study her style.

As I mentioned earlier though about the Studio Pierrot style eyes (I used the term bloodline earlier, cause it seems that most every artist who has walked away from there borrows a similar technique for eyes).... If you've ever seen an artist from Studio Pierrot, they draw some of the absolutely most beautiful eyes out there and generally have a glossy effect with minimal use of pure black and a clear showing of the pupil and iris with wild lashes... it could be said that they serve up the caviar of anime eyes, which is to be expected of the studio that pretty much invented the magical girl genre... pretty funny for a company that's named literally after a clown.

Those two above are my personal recommendation for elaborate female eyes, but for a more down to Earth, animatable eyes, Rumiko Takahashi and Akira Toriyama are perfect, as they've been around since the early days of anime and have the base technique that many have since built on (Unfortunately, the problem with Toriyama is that his eyes are TOO distinctive, hahaha). Ken Akamatsu is also a perticularly good choice for the "great looking but simple to draw" variable. There's no better way to learn than to study the masters after all and practice yourself into a coma.

Anyway, there's a lot of unwritten rules to be said about drawing eyes. I also personally find them to be one of the most rewarding parts of drawing in anime/manga style. The tutorials will carry you pretty far, but the rest is up to personal discovery. Of course, these are more of ideas than instructions, but I hope you would find them useful.

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Bomu
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posted 26-01-2006 01:41 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well said Zephos. A lot of food for thought there.

A few more newbie eye tips:

Space between each eye is generally '1 eye's width'. Some big eyed anime styles get away with 1 and a hald or even two. Any more and he/she will just look alien.

Best thing to do at the end of the day is experiement and find a look you like.

The amount of detail in and around the eye is dependant on how big the eyes are drawn. Small characters in the background should be represented with little more than solid line for the eyes, where as a massive close up of the face could show each eyelash, eye lid and iris pattern.

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miles
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posted 28-02-2006 02:14 PM     Profile for miles   Email miles     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
D riley eyes are some of the simpilest things to draw, if you can't even draw eyes how are you ever going to draw the body which i found damn hard exspecialty the hands
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Tri_kento
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posted 01-03-2006 01:22 AM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
miles.. were talking about even, good looking eyes with detail. were not talking about 2 dots on a face.

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Timmy
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posted 17-07-2006 10:37 PM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
remeber to put the reflection of the light the reflections point to the same way
also take a sheet of paper and cover the whole sheet with eyes thats what I do when I get stuck on a body part

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