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UKFaithless
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posted 11-02-2002 11:15 PM     Profile for UKFaithless   Author's Homepage   Email UKFaithless     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Firstly I want to explain that I have done a NOCN course in web design and am 'competant' in HTML.
I've just started learning CSS and although I can't write it from scratch I am able to take code and understand it and mutilate it to my needs which is how I start learning most things, trial and error.

This particular one is basically just something for fun.
I was at work one night and chatting to this woman who is involved with this site Michael Jackson News International, she only updates it etc and has nothing to do with the design of the site and was a lil embarrased by it.
I arrived home at 11:30pm and stayed up til 3:00am reworking it.

The 'HOME' bit is there (but not finished) the 'NEWS' bit is mostly finished and the 'KING' bit is there.
http://www.kbarker.freeserve.co.uk/MJIN/news.htm

Lemme know if any of you guys have any suggestions on how to improve it.
Thank you for your time.

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 11-02-2002 11:48 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hi I checked your design and the first thing I noticed was thisnullbrowser
so i switched to the build in InternetExplorer
(I hate to do this)

and I liked the design only one thing the michael in the backround looks to compressed and jaggy on the outside could need a touch up
but other than his tumbs up from me(as soon as it works in opera ).

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Bomu
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posted 12-02-2002 03:45 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well as G.i.A.m. pointed out not working in more than one browser can be a problem.. Then again as far as I know, my site still isn't fully Netscape compatible *lol*

Overall you've made good progress. It's a nice little clean cut site with easy navigation and the colour scheme's pretty easy on the eyes. The fixed BG looks good and the fact that it's quick to load's always good!

For it's pupose, it's good, but as far as site design goes, It's a little too basic for my tastes. Actually I'd prefer a 'lighter' colour scheme too to make it look a little more inviting and now that Michael Jackson's white- it'd have a sub meaning too

Good luck with the CSS programming. I don't know the 1st thing when it comes to that!

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UKFaithless
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posted 13-02-2002 10:09 PM     Profile for UKFaithless   Author's Homepage   Email UKFaithless     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
GRRRRRRR... It works on Netscrape 6.2... I installed it especially, there was some differences with the widths etc but I fixed them pretty much.
What version of Netscrape you guys got?

[ 13-02-2002: Message edited by: UKFaithless ]

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gramps
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posted 13-02-2002 10:42 PM     Profile for gramps   Author's Homepage   Email gramps     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Site design is pretty good: simple and fucntional, with some eye candy and easy read text. Pity that i think MJ is such a wankfu©k.

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Bomu
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posted 14-02-2002 07:11 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
What version of Netscrape you guys got?

Don't have any! But GiAm said it wasn't working right with 'null browser' - I think that's some kinda obscure browser that only a few people in Germany and Netherlands use ^o^ I'm not saying it's bad or anything though!

[ 14-02-2002: Message edited by: Bomu ]

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 14-02-2002 03:53 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
argh don't know how this null stuff came in my post. so the browser I use is Opera 6.01(the newest) you can get a ad sponsored copy here Opera web page
it's a nice browser whit some cool features

the only problem is that it isn't as error forgivening as IE.

btw. bomu little error with your page the tune isn't playing .

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Bomu
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posted 15-02-2002 06:12 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok G.i.A.m., so if you use Opera, what the heck is 'Null'?!

And my tunes doesn't play with Opera? It's only a simple embedded Wav... maybe I'll add the music to a Flash console of sorts in the future.. Only trouble with that is, people will need Flash 5.

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UKFaithless
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posted 15-02-2002 08:27 AM     Profile for UKFaithless   Author's Homepage   Email UKFaithless     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I went and downloaded Opera after my last post and OUCH!
It really doesn't like that site I posted does it?
It loads the back ground and then shows some of the text depending on its mood... GRRRRRRRRR. Oh well, my personal site displays okay using Opera. Lets just hope that all the MJ fans use Netscrape and IE and all the MJ flamers use Opera

Is the 'null' thing what the Board does if someone uses like HTML or something??

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UKFaithless
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posted 15-02-2002 08:30 AM     Profile for UKFaithless   Author's Homepage   Email UKFaithless     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I didn't realise, if you click on the 'browser' part of "Null browser is shows a screen that G.i.A.m took, cheers mate... same as I get in Opera... *SIGH*

I'll have to scout around see if I can find info on it.

*shakes head*

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 15-02-2002 11:01 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
uhm, the null thing is nothing.
OK when you use the instant url code on the board, but realize that the url you want to show isn't in the clipboard, well in my case I hit the cancel button and the board generated a link to null named null (me just forgot to delete it ).

bomu I checked the wav thing and Opera has no problem with embedded wav. So I did some testing by changing opera so that it downloads wav instead of playing them and opera didn't reacted wich means that the browser can't see it.
my guess it that its just a little spell error in the code or the path/filename describetion (I said it isn't as forgiving as IE ).

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Bomu
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posted 16-02-2002 08:45 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sounds very strange why only my embedded wav isn't working. G.i.A.m- is there any chance you could point me in the direction of a site that also has an embedded wav, which still plays with Opera. I can't find a problem with the coding, but might be able to put my finger on it if I can compare against someone else's html.

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 18-02-2002 03:13 AM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
uhm, I guess I have to apologize; sorry I was a bit quick.
See I checked some sites and had found a page that seemed to play a sound, at load up. so I checked the code and there was this embedded stuff in it.
So I told you that embedded wav was no problem, but I was a bit fast whit it. And after you asked for the code I tried to find the Page again.

But it was hard to find it and I came across alot of pages that said, "they have the embedded stuff on it" but I couldn't hear it( most of them showed me the nice gray "missing plug in" box). Well today I found the first page again and take a more carefull look at the code, it looked like this
*EMBED hidden=true src="intro.wav" volume="100" autostart="true"* *NOEMBED* *BGSOUND src="intro.wav"* */NOEMBED*

so it seems like opera isn't understanding the embedded code, but plays the old IE bgsound thing.
When there is a loop command for it it hopefully works.

sorry again.
uh and UKFaithless also sorry for using your tread.

[ 18-02-2002: Message edited by: G.i.A.m. ]

Edit: needed to correct your thread GiAm, by using the < tags it can mess with the layout some times, try using * instead of < in the future- cheers

[ 18-02-2002: Message edited by: Bomu ]

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Bomu
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posted 18-02-2002 10:25 AM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
G.i.A.m. thanks for going to the trouble- I appreciate it. So it seems the only other mark up I don't have is:

*NOEMBED* *BGSOUND src="intro.wav"* */NOEMBED*

It seems "noembed" is an invalid mark up but the BGsound code wont work properly (on IE) without it. I tried it without and it plays the same wav file twice at the same time!
What I'll do is make a moddified mock-up page and ask you to check it out, if that's ok GiAm?


UKFaithless - I'm also sorry for using up your thread >_<

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G.i.A.m.
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posted 18-02-2002 06:41 PM     Profile for G.i.A.m.   Email G.i.A.m.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
yup sure I check it out.

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UKFaithless
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posted 19-02-2002 11:08 PM     Profile for UKFaithless   Author's Homepage   Email UKFaithless     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ah my beautiful thread... the Hooror!!!!!!!!

lol
S'all good.

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