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Timmy
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posted 21-07-2006 05:28 PM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ps3 is 600 dollars i not gonna waste 350 dollars more for a sytem that dosent have many good titles i mean wii has zelda,mario,final fantasy,snake,kirby,dragon ball z(thats all i cabn think of right now) and ps3 has ? my choice is obious

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Bugsy
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posted 21-07-2006 05:52 PM     Profile for Bugsy   Author's Homepage   Email Bugsy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think it's been since SNES that Nintendo managed to have many good titles... Apart from sellers like Metroid Prime on Gamecube. Besides, Wii isn't trying to be in the same field as PS3/XBOX360, and Nintendo has been aiming at a much younger audience since the new generation of consoles... PS3 will have solid and respected titles like Tekken, all the EA sports games, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Unreal Tournament, Devil May Cry, I could go on. Oh, and Final Fantasy XIII is a PS3 title

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Timmy
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posted 21-07-2006 10:32 PM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
actuly nintendo trys tyo aim at every one with such titles as resident evil last time i forgot supersmash brothers brawl

nintendo will be forever be the most popular system didnt you ever hear your parents say "instead of playing nintendo"
and what about ps3 better graphics wont iut mean youill have to buy a high definition tv ? and wont the games ccost more becuase of the more work

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posted 22-07-2006 05:37 PM     Profile for Tri_kento   Author's Homepage   Email Tri_kento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Plz no console wars.. each system holds their highs and theie lows. Ps3 will be as ps2 and ps1 a good system, jam packed with many many Rpg's along with other..types of games.

Wii will be a diffrent sort of system with it's funky controlers and all. But it still won't have as many mature games as Xbox/PlayStation. Since Nintendo is more based for the younger players.

Xbox 360.. came out to soon, so it's not valid anymore. they should of waited,

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Timmy
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posted 24-07-2006 01:35 AM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ok if you guys dont want to argue then lets talk about why they dont have carteges for non protable systems anymore i mean they are better then cds you can leave them anywhere and they will still work.

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Bugsy
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posted 24-07-2006 05:58 AM     Profile for Bugsy   Author's Homepage   Email Bugsy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Coz cartridges don't allow for large storage capacities (or they'd get friggin expensive). In other words: no great-looking textures, no gigantic or overly detailed worlds, no rendered movies, ... Compare N64 to PSX, n64 had low-rez textures and lacked pre-rendered movies alltogether.

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Timmy
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posted 24-07-2006 04:27 PM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
when is the last time they made a game for n64 they have better technology now and legend of zelda orcirina of time had many dugeons and a large world all in realtime combat and the graphics arent bad either

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posted 25-07-2006 10:41 AM     Profile for Bugsy   Author's Homepage   Email Bugsy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, they probably could make cartridges now that could contain the same amount of data as a dvd (which is the standard now, not cd)... But these things (well similar things that are used as portable storage devices) are still expensive (way more than simple mass production of dvds) and just imagine you'd have to buy one for every game you get!
And no offense, but Ocarina of Time suffered of the same setbacks as any N64 game - having a set texture resolution (which was low, even for its time) resulting in very blurry textures for larger surfaces. This as opposed to PSX, where developers had total freedom in texture resolutions. Just compare: most N64 games were smaller than 15MB - any integrally ripped ROM can tell you that. 15MB for textures was nothing :/ PSX games could get up to 700 MB (or more coz they could use a set of cds and continue the game throughout).

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posted 27-07-2006 01:15 AM     Profile for Timmy   Email Timmy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
it is true they are more expensive but i would rather pay more for a game thats not gonna get stracthed (games are to expensive anyways it dosent cost 20 bucks to make a cd), that can have a built in memory card ,and think what could happen with tradeins all the games would be like perfect

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posted 17-08-2006 11:56 AM     Profile for Neo_Wolf   Email Neo_Wolf     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well think of all the problems the PS2 had when it came ut, i think every1 should wait atleast 6 months before buying it so that sony can iron out all the bugs, i.e. Over heating, discs over spining etc

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posted 12-09-2006 10:23 PM     Profile for Bomu   Author's Homepage   Email Bomu     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
$600 for a console is a lot, but I remember originally paying well over £200 ($450?) for my PS1 console, and that was still a year after it's release date! I imagine a lot of gamers wont be too put off by the price but many will be looking for the price drops before they commit to buying one. Sony's still got a good reputation since the PS1's launch so I still see it being a popular console. At the end of the day, the only reason I'd buy one is if it has at least half a dozen better games than a 360 or Wii.

RE: Carts vs CDS

Carts are better as far as loading times are concerned, and having built in memory would be cool but as Bugsy said, they're so expensive to manufacture that it's not cost effective for companies to make games for carts. Sure, it doesn't cost $50 to make a disk, but companies aren't gonna decide to make gaming a little more convenient for the consumer if it means them losing millions in profits..

.. One idea would be to use a more complex pre-loading system to enable disks to continue being loaded into a console's memory while you carry on playing the first stage/scene/level of a game... I dont know why they dont already work like this?

Also carts aren't that reliable. Anyone with a snes for example will tell you they've never had a 100% success rate loading carts. Maybe more modern consoles could get around that though?

btw- didn't realise N64 only had 15MB carts! That is bad!

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posted 07-11-2006 02:34 AM     Profile for Hiltz   Email Hiltz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nintendo was at one point in time,the most popular video game company.However,times have changed and Nintendo has since lost the majority of the market to Sony. The one thing Nintendo is best known for are making some of the best and most memorable games.

I believe Nintendo's best selling home console system was the Nes and that was obviously a long time ago.While Nintendo has failed to make a popular and better selling home console, the company continues to do extremely well with making a profit off in hardware sales and they continue to dominate the handheld market with the series of GameBoys and now with the DS.

The PS3 supports HDTV, but that does not mean that PS3 owners mustuse an HDTV set to play PS3 games on.The power of the PS3 is already capable of producing impressive,detailed and crisp graphics.The PS3 blu-ray games contain around 25GB of memory storage space allowing developers to have a lot of creative freedom and attention to details and Sony plans on expanding the game disc memory to 50GB.Basically, the PS3 is going to be the ideal next-gen system for developers to make big and beautiful games without developers having to worry as much about having to make as many sacrifices.

For the record, I've always been a Nintendo fan and only own Nintendo systems. I look forward to getting a Wii.However, I personally have more concerns for Wii than for PS3. This includes stuff like Nintendo's inexperience in full home console online support, third party developer support and the long-term interest of the success or failure of the Wii-mote controller.

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posted 07-11-2006 02:48 AM     Profile for Hiltz   Email Hiltz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think Xbox 360 is going to shw it's true colors with the next line-up of games starting with Gears of War. However, I think Xbox 360 is going to fail again to capture the interest of Japan even with games like Blue Dragon.

Based only on what I know so far, I think Wii is going to win the battle but PS3 is going to win the war.

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posted 07-11-2006 03:52 PM     Profile for evilone   Author's Homepage   Email evilone     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
right on brother!

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posted 07-11-2006 04:06 PM     Profile for Angelo   Author's Homepage   Email Angelo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's a tough one because the PS3 has been kinda plagued by problems that have resulted in its delay such as the whole thing about Blu-Ray, the Cell processor, microtransactions, take your pick - the gaming media seems to be highlighting the faults quite a lot. The price tag is way too much for me, but I was always going to wait for it to go down anyway. I mean, the only titles I'm really looking forward to are MGS4 and DMC4 - all the rest are pretty much a bonus. One thing that has annoyed me a bit is Sony's marketing arrogance (don't get me wrong, I though the PS2 had a great set of games) - rather than going on about the Blu-Ray being so brilliant etc, they should have concentrated on ironing out any problems with it. The setback is once again going to impact on European gamers the most, because Europe is always the LAST to get anything - this after the promise of a simultaneous worldwide release.
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posted 07-11-2006 05:10 PM     Profile for evilone   Author's Homepage   Email evilone     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
other than kh3 i don't have any wishlists on the ps3
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posted 07-11-2006 09:55 PM     Profile for Hiltz   Email Hiltz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, Sony has sure run into several problems with the PS3 and they are going to suffer for it this holiday season and early and mid 2007. However, Sony has been hard at work to smooth out and solve these problems so that they will not likely come back to bite Sony in the butt again.

I seriously would not expect any PS3 price drops any time soon because Sony has to first deal with losing a lot of money off of the PS3 launch period and then they need to wait so that they can produce cheaper PS3 components before any price drop can be announced.

Honestly, I think Sony has the right idea and they are making the long-term decisions to ensure that PS3 will succeed but the success of the Blu-Ray is a different matter.While the PS3 is the most expensive next-gen machine,many customers are willing to spend that much money for a machine they know will offer exactly what they expect unlike the risky Wii and it's questionable future.I do agree with you about Sony's arrogance.

Xbox 360 should do fairly well this holiday season thanks to the new exclusive killer app title, Gears of War which has recieved very high scores.

I think Ubisoft claimed that Red Steel for Wii will feature little to no loading times. I don't know if you'd call it streaming or not though. Nintendo took loading time into consideration and designed Wii to load faster than GameCube. I believe Sony has said something about faster loading times on the PS3 and if it's true, then it would be great because the PS1 and PS2 had horrible reputations for loading times.

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